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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedon 3 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0
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'Primary male anorgasmia and its treatment: Three case reports'

Published: September 1993

Abstract
Primary anorgasmia in men is a relatively rare dysfunction. Here three such cases are described, with emphasis on the clarification of the contributing factors both during the individual's upbringing and previous experience and at the time of assessment. The three men responded rapidly to cognitive-behavioural intervention, and the techniques used are described.
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 6
Hi Alan19,
1. Is your body pain under good control now?
2. Are you still taking 2 capsules of GABA-Plus each night for 2 nights then with 1 night break ?
3. I remember you have done an experiement to see if GABA+ can be taken on a on-need basis (say a few hours before sex activities). Any result so far?
4. You have tried out ZMA(Twinlab) for a month now. Does it help?

I had stopped GABA+ for a while because of cranker sore. I resumed taking it a week ago and found that its impact on my body has diminished. I am adding my dose from 2/day to 4/day to see if that helps.

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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 6
Regarding : GABA level in blood.

The following "answer" gives one explanation to Needhelpage31 why nil detection of GABA in blood even taken GABA supplement for some time.

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.... GABA as a supplement doesn't have a proper half life, because it's not absorbed physiologically. It's degraded by transaminase enzymes in the stomach and liver, and has essentially no physiological impact as it never reaches systemic circulation, let alone the blood brain barrier, which it cannot cross.
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This is copied from the following Q&A link :
uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090411175407AA2xpKz

Of course, this "answer" couldn't explain the positive impact of GABA supplement that some of us have experienced.
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 1
michaelsad wrote:

Of course, this "answer" couldn't explain the positive impact of GABA supplement that some of us have experienced.

Unless it's the Inositol and Niacinamide that is doing the trick.
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 0
Hello everyone!

First, I'd like to thank all of you who have responded to me, a wife who is in need of advice in supporting my husband through all this. He's still not comfortable enough to research the thread and talk at length about his AE, so I'm doing my best to research by reading through the thread.

I have some questions for you married guys:

1. Since he confided in me about his AE, I have been the sole sexual aggressor. It seems he is more comfortable that way. He's always receptive, which is a very nice change, but I wonder if it bugs him. I hate the thought of him giving into sex just to keep me happy. But I simultaneously feel sad that I no longer feel "wanted" sexually. It's quite a lovely thing to have the object of your desire want to arouse you into lovemaking. I just miss feeling "desired." So, to the point:

Do you see your wife/lover as an annoyance in her desire for sex when you cannot orgasm?

Also, I haven't really found many others who have the same kind of AE my husband has...that is, he has never had an orgasm. I see many who lost functioning later in life, but none who have never had an orgasm. I'd love to hear from them about which parts of sex are very pleasurable, which parts do you want to last longer, etc.

Thanks guys.

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Please pardon my abbreviation "AE." I meant "EA."
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 0
I was married for seven and twenty five years:
"I have been the sole sexual aggressor;it seems he is more comfortable that way, he's always receptive, which is a very nice change, but i wonder if it bugs him;"
Are you comfortable enough to ask?

"I hate the thought of him giving in to sex just to keep me happy. But I simultaneously feel sad that I no longer feel "wanted" sexually. It's a quite lovely thing to have the object of your desire want to arouse you into lovemaking. I just miss being "desired'. So to the point, Do you see your wife/lover as an annoyance in her desire for sex when you cannot orgasm?
Quick answer: hell no.
For me, the joy of romance, the tingle of desire, the nuances of seduction and being wanted, wanting, enjoying penetration, body to body contact, all the nuances of relationship and sexual come hithe, and let's enjoy getting it on are all there as are for me the awareness and consciousness. The only thing missing for me is the bells and whistles and carried away of orgasm. And possibly too with "orgasm" missing, maybe every other nuance of sexual pleasure is that much more delightful.
I want to arouse my lover into lovemaking (can you talk that over with him? or do you need a professional 3rd party or is this forum venting helping? (That is a female intuitive triple query.)
I just feel the "being desired" needs airing out. I desire my lover and she knows it. She knows I want to be with her, and the orgasm would be nice, it ain't there and that's a natural fact, and I don't need it there to make our intimacy the special, caring, and mutually sexing and loving thing it is.
Sex is a mutual wish and never an annoyance. (You guys have to talk this thru.)
I don't "give in to sex" and doubt he does either, and I seriously do not believe YOU ARE NOT WANTED SEXUALLY.
Sounds like you would feel moe desire if he initated some of the time too, that sounds like an easy negotiation to me.
"See your wife/lover as an annoyance in her desire for sex when you cannot orgasm"/ hell no again, and "no orgasm" for me and my lover, it ain't there and it ain't gonna come back feeling sorry for myself, or wallowing in resentment, so let's get on with enjoying lovemaking and being partners in life and enjoying everything about sex and the intra and interpersonal relationship. There is a tremendous amount of pleaseure in a relationship, and sex, without the orgasm. I am not hung up on orgasming. I am living without it and enjoying everything I do have which is great and wouldn't miss it for the world.
And I would be open to discuss every concern and fear and uncertainty you have raised and would be disappointed if you didn't bring it up.
I don't have the same kind of EA so I can't answer the last except to say for me penetration, and the entire giving and receiving of pleasure, especially giving and receiving forplay, and especially giving my lover pleasure, receiving same, and giving her an orgasm. Yeah I miss orgasming, but that don't change it ain't there, and not there, it ain't necessary for me to give or receive happiness, joy, and love. And maybe it will happen again someday who knows, good Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
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I find the more I concentrate on pleasure, giving and receiving, and the trust of and being a caring partner who ain't going to abandon me (she) (over orgasming), things feel better and better and closer to the experience of orgasming though just a tiny bit short of it, and I do not get upset over "just a tiny bit short." (Things for me are moving in that direction I think because I am taking in and living in the integrity of the whole experience, the pleasure and joys of the moment, right here, right now, and crating what we wish and desire together . . .
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia 3 Months ago Karma: 0
Also my girl is out of town a lot so I masturbate a lot, and along with nipple breast stimulation, penis stimulation, I also do anal stimulation with a dildo, and all of that together is as good as an orgasm (don't discredit it unless you have tried it:) we do the same when we are together and incorporate a lot of forplay, breast nipple, give and receive, oral give and receive, vulva/clit, g-spot, perineum/prostate, anal both, use of a strap on, use of toys, hand held dildos, and making everything as eventful and stimulating as possible, I give her orgasms and hardly don't notice that 1.7 seconds or so on my part, because the rest of it is that good and great, Hope that helps. Also if needed i can recommend a sex therapist you can consult by telephone, Gloria Brame, PhD, has her own website AtOtherLocation, if you follow the first letters. Best of luck.
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Michelle:

I've never felt annoyed or upset toward my wife about her ability to feel the pleasure that I cannot.

Sometimes when she's felt great, and I've felt nothing, I get very sad. And even though she knows it's not directed toward her, my wife still feels guilty about feeling so good.

She'll sometimes decline my offer to make her feel good, because she can't return the favor. This always makes me feel bad, because it's not fair for her to miss out because of my illness.

Every once in a while I do feel jealous of her. But I try really hard not to show it, due to the way she'll react. (Which I've just described.)

For most of our married life, I've still had a pretty high drive, and you'd say I was the aggressor. But for the past 4 months or so, things have felt so badly for me that I've pretty much given up on feeling good anymore. So we only have sex once a week. Maybe twice. I'm trying to stop hitting my head against the wall. But this makes me sad too. It's as though part of me, and our relationship, is gone forever.

Bottom line, though, I love my wife, and love to make her feel good. I hope your husband feels the same way toward you. But I can understand if his own drive is very low, since there's no payoff for him, personally.
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Need the arousal is good though right? As far as getting hard strong erections when you are with her and overall a sense of feeling good. I actually was with a girl 2 nights ago and I was quite happy that I made her have incredible orgasms and it made me feel good I was doing something good for her. I was hard for the 2 hours leading up to sex and though my orgasm was not incredible I have to say that overall I enjoyed the act. Feeling aroused for 2 or 3 hours is a good thing even if the orgasms you do not feel much. Mentally it makes me feel good to know I made her feel good. Thats all i have to go on right now and the fact that the arousal is incredible. Maybe blow jobs would be a better way to get off? I find taht when a girl gives me oral sex till orgasm its a better sensation then cumming during intercourse.
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Hello all. I am new to this forum and am in a slightly scared state of mind. I believe myself to have EA but was wondering how to best verify?

about three days ago this the event of ejaculating without an orgasm has occured for me and it has happened every day since.

what can I do to fix this? My girlfriend thinks it's her fault but i know it's something wrong with me...I'm just slightly scared here and am trying to find a way to make everything ok.

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aklouthan wrote:
about three days ago this the event of ejaculating without an orgasm has occured for me and it has happened every day since.

what can I do to fix this? My girlfriend thinks it's her fault but i know it's something wrong with me...I'm just slightly scared here and am trying to find a way to make everything ok.

I would say the main thing for you to do is relax. For you, this is probably nothing but a temporary glitch. Sexual function can come and go. It is quite normal for men to occasionally have sexual dysfunction, including occasional problems with orgasm. It isn't normal for it to last months or years.

From the description of your mental state, I think it is entirely possible that you just had a bad day, and have since been too wound up about it for proper sexual response. Maybe you've had 3 bad days.

If you're not on any meds, this will probably pass. You say that this has happened every day since 3 days ago. So you're ejaculating every day. Orgasms do get better with a day or two off.

The next time you do have sex, make sure that you both plan on just having fun, whether or not you have an orgasm. If you do, great, if not, it will likely come back another day. It really is harmful for either of you to get too wound up about this, because that kind of pressure and monitoring can cause these problems. Talk to your girlfriend, and don't have sex until you're sure that both of you can do it without being uptight about it.

Breathe deep. You'll almost certainly get past this.

Now, if you are on meds, such as finasteride or anti depressants, you should probably check out the Yahoo Group SSRI sex, or check out propeciahelp.com and ask them what is the current thinking on the best way of getting off these meds. Of course, if you're on antidepressants, contact your doctor about this problem pronto, and don't change your dose until you talk to him.
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In reply to the earlier question - even though I may have a normal erection, I lately have not even felt the excitement of arousal. I enjoy making my wife feel so good, but I sometimes feel nothing at all. At all - no exaggeration. No pleasure from oral, intercourse, ejaculation, or even a mental/chemical uplift.

I'd add to my previous comment, to the wife of the sufferer, who has posted, that I sometimes wish my wife wanted to have sex more frequently. Sometimes it's hard for me to see that she's capable of so much pleasure, but doesn't want it. Meanwhile, I'd give nearly anything to feel even half as good as she does. So it can feel like she's not even interested in this experience I am dying to enjoy.

Does that make sense to anyone else?

TnT - any progress with the TV program?
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