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2 years, 2 months ago #42206
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

plus i would advise a trial cyproheptadine taken 3,4 hrs before sex.especially if u dont have a history of depression...i couldnt tolerate the drug enough to even check it once..posted my experience on this thread a while back
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1 year, 11 months ago #42359
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

I have two questions is Ejac. Anedonia linked to Premature Ejaculation?
Has anyone tired the Parkinsons Drug called Parlodel (bromocriptine)?

Thanks for your time.
Chris, Suffer of both PE and EA since puberty.(33 now)
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1 year, 11 months ago #42360

Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

cjsteele - Some of us think that our EA could be a form of premature ejaculation. Many of us can "make it last" but don't feel pleasure. So the thinking is that as our bodies begin to get to where pleasure should be felt, the ejaculatory reflex happens. And just because this is more than a couple minutes of sexual activity, it's an early ejaculation in that it shouldn't really have happened yet. The body never builds up to anything good.

Also, I have not tried bromocriptine. I'd love to hear someone's experience with it.

(I have tried cabergoline, Wellbutrin XL, and ropinorole.)
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1 year, 11 months ago #42361
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

well I'm already on most SS(N)RIs ie Effexor XL (150mg/d), Welbutrin XL 50mg/d, and a beta blocker for PVCs (heart condition) so I don't know if I should ask my GP for Bromocriptine off label use for Anhedonia.

Thoughts?
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1 year, 11 months ago #42362
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

needhelpage31 wrote:
cjsteele - Some of us think that our EA could be a form of premature ejaculation. Many of us can "make it last" but don't feel pleasure. So the thinking is that as our bodies begin to get to where pleasure should be felt, the ejaculatory reflex happens. And just because this is more than a couple minutes of sexual activity, it's an early ejaculation in that it shouldn't really have happened yet. The body never builds up to anything good.

As someone on the delayed ejaculation side, I can tell you it's not that my ejaculatory reflex is on too much of a hair trigger, even if it does take a long time. I just don't get enough of a build up to ejaculate or orgasm, and have to gin up a bunch of body tension to trigger the ejaculation. I basically force myself into a premature ejaculation, if only to get it over with. If I don't gin up the body tension, I'll never ejaculate at all.

I'm sure that's an unhelpful habit. But I haven't been able to get anything to work anyway, and it at least provides some relief from an unsatisfied libido. I've tried not masturbating at all. Masturbating but no to ejaculation. Neither has made a difference.

For you fellas with actual premature ejaculation, I think there is better hope for you. You're probably capable of a buildup to orgasm, if only you can prevent the premature ejaculation before you've built up enough. That is largely a solved problem, between alcohol, creams, and dapoxetine.
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1 year, 11 months ago #42386
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

I believe it helps, up to a point. If you keep it up indefinitely, you start hitting the "use it or lose it" phase.

I've had abstaining for a month or two. It didn't bring my orgasms back. If anything, overall arousal was lower at the end than when I started.
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1 year, 10 months ago #42489
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

cjsteele wrote:
I have two questions is Ejac. Anedonia linked to Premature Ejaculation?
Has anyone tired the Parkinsons Drug called Parlodel (bromocriptine)?
Chris, Suffer of both PE and EA since puberty.(33 now)

I believe we have at least two classes of EA sufferers - those with delayed ejaculation, and those with premature ejaculation. I'll have to take a poll to see if some of the guys with adult onset saw their time to ejaculation change when they got AE.

I don't know if anyone has gotten around to Bromocriptine.
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1 year, 9 months ago #42775
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

Hello all.

Ive been reading this forum for the last week now trying to get as much info as possible before posting. It also seems alot of people are first contributed are now gone.

Anyways, I am 25 years old and think that I am now possibly developing symptoms of EA. I am not suffering from depression, headaches, dyslexia or any hernia issues. I am not and have not been on any medicine. When I was younger, I did not suffer from any allergies, however, at the age of 21, I developed OAS (oral allergy syndrome) being allergic to certain fruits.

For the past week, my ejaculations have suddenly not been followed by any orgasms. Whereas before, I would at time get immense rushes to the brain. I would dismiss this and say it might be a phase, however, over the last year, it seems the tip of my penis has gotten less sensitive and have less control over it. I started noticing this when after urinating, there would be driplets as if the muscles at the tip could not contract and constrict to close.

I will try waiting a few days before the next time I do anything just to see if it is a bodily phase.

Here are a few other things that maybe can hopefully one day lead to further narrowing the causes.

As some people have stated, MSG *might* have some affect. For the past 2 years I have lived in China with MSG being an ingredient used in ALL dishes. Whether this really has any relevance or not, who knows.

When masturbating, before ejaculating it seems as if my brain feels a small and brief dosage of the orgasmic feeling, then its gone and after a few minutes later when I do ejaculate, there's no pleasurable feeling.

As for premature ejaculation, I'm not too sure. At times I am able to last a long time, at others unless I really try to think about not ejaculating, I can't control it.

Hopefully the more people who say their symptoms, the more likely one can pinpoint the exact cause.
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1 year, 9 months ago #42777
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

I noticed a few things you have in common. One is dripplets from penis opening. Second is the feeling of impending orgasm just to be followed by ejaculation without orgasm. One thing I don't have in common with you is you said at one time you had mind blowing orgasms. I on the other hand have never experienced that.

Chris
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

The thing that jumps out to me is your report of allergies.

I developed seasonal allergies at about the same time my anhedonia began. Whether it's a histamine thing, or whether the body can cause lasting damage due to allergies, I don't know.

But that's an interesting angle, if you ask me.

Join us at ejaculatoryanhedonia.com when you get a chance.
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1 year, 9 months ago #42780

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Im not sure if allergies has anything to do with it i have had them my whole life and have only had a few episodes as a teen and now constant for the last 6 or so years im 45 now. I have extensive plant & animal allergies but no food allergies if this helps any.. Q.. what has been the best help ( med or holistic ) so far is gaba & gaba plus it so far i have not tried anything yet and would like to know what to get to help me?????????
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1 year, 7 months ago #43526

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Re: Today 11/11/2011

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1 year, 7 months ago #43546
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Re:Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia

Sorry for the long delay in response. I didnt want to write false posts based on reflex one time instances.

So an update, I can now saw that this is what I have. For the past month I guess I have been trying different methods of regaining the feeling of orgasm while ejaculating. Somethings like the listening to a certain beat per minute song would occasionally help, other suggestions like standing up etc would also help once or twice and then fade away.

So with a certainty of what it now is, and being only in the onset stage, I am wondering if anyone who has had this longer with similar symptoms as me shed some light on what *might* start happening on occurring next? For example, I mentioned before that the tip has gotten less sensitive, droplets after urinating and almost like a feeling that the nerves at the tip cant pinch shut. Anything else later on?

The good or bad part is, I was waiting for marriage to have sex, so now I prob wont have that right feeling when finally having sex

I know some people on this board have seemed pretty depressed and seems like it might have messed up some marriages, but although this type of problem exists, it seems to not bring any health issues and not life threatening. Sorry if I'm a little too optimistic for some people.
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