His and Her Health

C'mon ladies, I love experimentation and I know that at least one of you can lead me to the greatest stimulating lotion or cream for my clitoris while using either my vibrator or while making love to my guy. I used a product called Nanaja, but it no longer available. This stuff can be very expensive so please pass along only tried and tested products that result in absolutely levitating or earthshaking orgasms. Please Please Please

As far as that sort of thing goes, I think Zestra is the best thing out there. Not that it's going to give you levitation or earthshaking capabilities; for that I'd take up the practice of tantra and/or get a Hitachi Magic Wand. But it will give you a nice warm tingley feeling.

I saw a new k-y jelly with warmth; supposed to warm in contact. I wanted to buy some but my son was with me.<P><BR>I

Good God, you can make your own soap too, but who would want to take the time? And isn't vanilla extract mostly alcohol? Not something I'd want to be putting on my tender parts, not good for the skin.<P>As for KY jelly, back in the day when I needed lube for vaginal intercourse it gave me a yeast infection most every time.<P>If we are going to talk about simple lube, the absolute best thing for handjobs for men and manual clitoral stimulation for women is Albolene, a makeup remover. It also contains oil, so can't be used with condoms or sex toys, but it's a lube that doesn't quit. I don't know about yeast infections since I haven't used the stuff inside me, but for extended foreplay it really can't be beat, doesn't quit.<P>I'm assuming I can mention Albolene here without getting edited since Zestra and KY jelly have been mentioned.

JuzMe,<P>I agree that Zestra is a good product. I have had good results with it. It's a bit pricey, but I only end up using between 1/3 and 1/2 of the amount they recommend, so it's lasting a long time. <P>Ruby

I have suffered with yeast almost all of my teen years and now all of my adult life and still am fighting it. I am on Diflucan for most of my life. I have seen a TOP vulva specialist in Boston because of constant yeast which gave me eczema.( It's called a yeast induced eczema) Any doctor who knows enough about yeast will tell you AVOID SUGAR - Real or Artificial. That means fruit as well in some women.<BR>PLEASE,..... Ladies, honey WILL NOT HELP STOP yeast !! It will GIVE you one exp. if you a prone to them.<BR><p>[Note: This message has been edited by NEWSHE Moderator]

Now I'm confused. What does the warming in the homemade warming lotion if it isn't the vanilla? If it's just glycerin, sounds just like regular lube to me, and for lube a giant tub of Albolene that would probably last three months with lots of sex is just $10 and sold at your local drugstore (of course, that's assuming sex with no condoms). No need for the Martha Stewart routine. As for my thing, believe me, I'm not going out of my way to make things harder for women. Guys will do that, I've come across weird recipes for potency drinks they have to make every day involving far-out ingredients when the active ingredients are simple vitamins. I say just take the vitamins in the first place. Why make more work for yourself?<P>Also, I've tried Zestra and you just use a few drops; it's not used like a lube.

Honey could cause a yeast infection in women prone to them. I just didn't want women who suffer with these to go grab the Honey and try it. How do you know Honey wont cause a yeast infection? It is sugar, Yeast loves sugar - of ANYKIND.<BR><p>[Note: This message has been edited by NEWSHE Moderator]

I just finished a year long college course in Human Anatomy and Physiology, and my professor stated that honey contains a lot of bacteria, and it is for this reason that newborns or young babies are not to be given honey in their formula or cereal. The reason is that young babies' immune systems are not fully functional, so the bacteria in honey can really cause them some harm.<P>I don't know about yeast infections, but it might not be good to use honey in a lubricant just because of the bacterial content.<P>Ruby

Anyone know why this Moderator is deleting things here ???????? No doctors names have been said, products ???????????????? Noithing????????????????

Zaneblue,<P>You said zestra doesn't do much for you. It didn't do much for me. I tried it and found it to be oily, messy, and stinky. It's hard to get off the skin and sheets. It's impossible to use without announcing to my husband I'm using it because the smell is so strong it fills up the room. I don't recommend it. Have you tried Enjoy? It's a gel with hardly any smell so it's not messy and easier to use. It's an herbal clitoral stimulant. I agree about Albolene as a lube when one is needed.<P>Zoe<BR>

Oh, I don't mind smell or messy--sex is a smelly, messy business IMHO--but aside from a nice warm tingle, it wasn't something I couldn't live without. On the other hand, I have good sensation (and would probably have excellent sensation if I had fewer clitoral orgasms). I think for a woman with decreased sensation it would help things along.<P>Does Enjoy have more oomph? I've tried other stimulant creams, and Zestra seems to give the best bang, for what it is. E-mail where I can get it and I'll give it a try; always open to new things. What are the active ingredients?

Haven't been e-mailed, and I sure as heck can't find it on the Internet--a pretty silly name for a product if people are trying to find it. Oh well.

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. The whole name is EnjoyRX. I found it better than Zestra but that's my personal preference.

I wrote a long post saying the ingredients in this product didn't make any sense, since they were all herbs you need to ingest every day to affect hormone levels, not rub on your parts, and then I realized that EnjoyRX is two different products, a capsule you take every day with a proprietary blend of herbs and a warming gel. My feeling on the herbs is you are better off taking the individual herbs you need; that way you can control dosage and you don't get extraneous herbs. For example, I don't think women benefit from taking guarana, that's an aphrodisiac for men that will slow down women's orgasms (this one I know both from research and firsthand experience). L-arginine might help women with decreased bloodflow but all it did for me was make my biceps bigger. Wild yam helps with estrogen levels, a woman with normal estrogen probably wouldn't need that. And while I like damiana for sex, that's an herb that I don't think should be taken every day as a matter of course, since the relaxing and disinhibiting effect is much like alcohol. On the other hand, I'm very pro-chocolate.<P>But this has nothing to do with the gel. The gel sounds frightening to me. I'm not a big fan of glycerin (although do not want to restart the whole "does it cause yeast infections" thread), and I've used lots of products with menthol in them and don't much care for them. Arginine doesn't work with this delivery method even if it did work for women. But sodium hydroxide? Come on, do a casual Internet search and the first things that come up are ways of protecting yourself while using it in experiments, "Is a caustic substance and skin contact should be avoided." No thank you. Ginseng isn't something that will work from rubbing, and there at the end is Angelica--I think I'll stick with Zestra.<P>My goodness, did more poking around. Sodium hydroxide is lye. Lye! Eep! No thank you.<P>[This message has been edited by zaneblue (edited 25 June 2003).]<p>[This message has been edited by zaneblue (edited 25 June 2003).]